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Game of Thrones, Season 4, Episode 32: “The Lion and the Rose”


Game of Thrones is a different experience for me. After watching a show like The Walking Dead where I have a general idea of where the show was going I am now hooked on a show that I have no clue what’s happening next. With Game of Thrones, I am at the mercy of time as I have to wait until 9 pm every Sunday night. Sure I could go and read the books and one day I might, but for now, I am enjoying not knowing.  It’s fun to not knowing what is about to happen next. It also makes me anxious. It’s a fun anxiety that makes me shift in my seat as I watch favorite characters trade quips and steel. Game of Thrones has no problems bumping off major characters without warning, which adds to the stress and enjoyment.

There is a lot to talk about so let’s get right into it.



This party needs more dwarfs.

Seriously. There are major spoilers below.

5 Random Thoughts of Game of Thrones, Season 4 Episode 32: “The Lion and the Rose”

1. Well, I didn’t see that coming…


A lot of things happened in this episode. Stannis burned some people, Theon’s life continues to get worse, Bran finds a face in a tree, Tyrian breaks up with Shae to save her life, and someone killed Joffrey.

What, what the what?!



Yes, after years of the internet praying for the little weasel’s head it happened. And it happened out of the blue. One moment he’s tormenting his uncle Tyrian the next he’s convulsing on the ground and bleeding from his eyes and nose.

Before diving into the “who did it” I wanted to take a moment to pay tribute to a fantastic villain. Joffrey (portrayed brilliantly by Jack Gleeson) was such an amazing evil little worm that I don’t think people will realize how much they’re going to miss him. Sure he was horrible, and everyone couldn’t wait until he died. But for it to happen so suddenly without any grand build up makes me think Joffrey got off easy. The character caused so much pain you wanted to see his death coming. You want him to know that death is on the way for him. You want to see him squirm, beg and cry for his life. Maybe that’s why I enjoy this show so much, the unpredictability of it. There wasn’t an overhyped up showdown between good and evil. Just a poisoned cup and the end of a mean little boy.


With such a major mystery I’ve decided to forget my other random thoughts and focus on the list suspects.

 1. Tyrian Lannister

Tyrian is the prime suspect as the episode ends. With his last ounce of strength that little prick Joffrey causes his uncle more grief by pointing an accusatory finger towards him. Cersei orders him detained.

I don’t believe it was Tyrian. Not because Tyrian didn’t want Joffrey dead but because if he were to kill Joffrey, Tyrian would have done a better job of making sure he didn’t end up as the prime suspect. He’s smarter than poisoning the king while acting as the king’s walking koozie. So the question is who wants both Joffrey dead and either Tyrian dead or doesn’t care if Tyrian gets the blame?

Chances he did it: Slim to none.

2. Sansa Stark

Sansa Stark wants Joffrey dead more than anyone in King’s Landing. He is either directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of her parents and brother. Something that he throws in her face on a regular basis. She has no idea where her other siblings are and presumes they’re dead. She is alone (well not alone. She does have her husband Tyrian who she was forced to marry, but that seems to be working out for her at the moment).

She also had the opportunity. While Joffrey was busy toying with Tyrian, he dropped his cup on the ground and forced Tyrian to retrieve it. It was Sansa that handed Tyrian the cup. Was she able to slip something into it unnoticed? Was she trying to get revenge on Joffrey and free herself from her marriage at the same time?

Chances she did it: Slim. Sansa doesn’t strike me as a killer yet. Plus she didn’t have any idea that Joffrey would make Tyrian the king’s cupbearer so, unless she carries poison around with her at all time, she wouldn’t have thought she’d have the opportunity to murder the Joffrey.

3. Margaery Tyrell

Maybe the idea of being married to a psychopath didn’t have the same allure to it as it did before. Maybe this was her idea all along. Be made the queen then kill off the king. Maybe she had a severe case of cold feet and knew this was the only way to get away from the little freak. The only problem with her as a suspect is that if Joffrey dies, she doesn’t remain in power. The title falls to Joffrey’s little brother. She ends up with nothing.  It would be strange to go through everything she has only to kill him now. She would at least wait until she gave him a son before she killed him.

Chances she did it: Nah, don’t see it.

4. Tywin Lannister

The Hand of the King, as well as grandfather of the king, is not a man to disappoint. The only thing Tywin Lannister cares about is the Lannister legacy. He already disowned Jamie Lannister for remaining in the King’s Guard. He’s always at odds with his other son because of Tyrian’s love of wine and whores. Perhaps he looked at his grandson Joffrey as someone he could mentor. Someone he could bend to his will.

Then he realized that his cruel grandson was a little boy with no intentions of listening to anyone. He was growing more violent and unpredictable every day, and it was only a matter of time before he would become uncontrollable. Having gone through one rebellion already, Tywin knew it would only be a question of time before the people rose up. Maybe he believed if he got rid of Joffrey the line of succession would make Joffrey’s younger brother Tommen king.

As Hand of the King, Tywin could remain in charge of the kingdom and groom Tommen until he was ready to take over.

Chances he did it: Meh, probably not. Sure Tywin wasn’t impressed with his grandson, but I believe he would have disposed of him more subtly. Plus while he might not like his son, Tyrian is still a Lannister, and I don’t think he would frame him when he could frame just about anyone in the kingdom.

5. Cersei Lannister

Cersei was having a bad day. Her son was married to a woman she hated. Her daughter-in-law was winning over the people with her kindness and generosity (yuck). She suspects that Brienne of Tarth has a thing for her brother Jamie. And that creepy Maester was standing near her being all creepy.

Maybe the queen was having some issues about losing her position and the power that comes with it. Maybe she would do just about anything to ensure that she remains close to the power?

Maybe she would even try and poison her daughter-in-law on her wedding day? Perhaps, the poison was intended for Margaery, and Joffrey picked it up instead and made Tyrian fill it up? What if she realized that she killed her son but is now blaming Tyrian?

Chances she did it: Ehh, not high but it’s who I’d like it to be.

That’s a lot of “what ifs” but for someone who hasn’t read the books I think it’s just a good of a theory as any.

Honorable Mentions

Shae – Scorned by Tyrian’s breaking up with her she does not get on the ship and instead finds a way to poison the king so Tyrian gets the blame.

Melisandre (the red witch) – Didn’t she place a spell on Robb Stark, Joffrey and Balon Greyjoy?

Dontos (The fool) – Nearly killed by Joffrey in season 2, he was then humiliated at the wedding and was last seen ushering Sansa away.

Olenna – In cahoots with Margaery, they planned to kill him once they realized how dangerous he was.


Bonus Random Thought!

Well, that guy is one hellva bastard


Poor Theon Greyjoy aka “Reek.” On the one hand, at least he’s out of the dungeon and able to get some fresh air. On the other hand, he’s now being forced to run through the woods and keep up with his psychotic new master, the bastard Ramsey, and his equally psychotic girlfriend as they hunt down a woman in the woods. I believe she was one of the women that seduced Theon. Apparently, she was a little too good at her job and began to make Ramsey’s girlfriend jealous. You know how it goes. A psycho +  his psycho girlfriend + another crazy woman + Reek – Reek’s wang = The crazy woman running for her life and eventually being ripped apart by the psycho’s hounds.

Theon has become so broken and under the control of Ramsey that he even allows Theon to shave him, knowing that Theon will not harm him. Even when being told of Robb Stark’s fate Theon doesn’t disobey. Is he biding his time? Or is all that’s left just Reek?

Lightning Round Random Thoughts

  • I like Bronn teaching Jamie to fight again like a GoT version of Mr. Miyagi.
  • Excellent idea giving the King psycho a wicked sharp sword.
  • Awww Bronn didn’t deserve that slap.
  • Who thinks that’s the last we’ll see of Shae?
  • Everything they eat on this show looks horrible.
  • “Go drink until it feels like you did the right thing.” – Bronn
  • Just as I was writing “The internet is going to explode the day they kill off Joffrey.” They killed off Joffrey.
  • I will try and use these powers for good.
  • I love that this show will kill off a major character in the second episode of the season and not wait until the season finale. It makes it that much more unpredictable.
  • No Hound 😦
  • I love this show.
It felt good to watch you die but you will be missed.

It felt good to watch you die. You will be missed.


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